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" magazine's leigh gallagher. mark, good to see you. jeff zucker. >> a struggling -- >> taking over cnn. >> looking to jz. >> jeff zucker to run the joint. >> that would be interesting. >> smart guy if see what happens. all right. well, good, good. so how is our republican party -- so mark mckinnon, it's been a very, very rough month for you as a republican. you haven't shaved since the election. >> ah. >> you're not -- >> looking very handsome. >> you're not brushing your hair. >> well. >> your scarves look a little out of touch with the rest of your outfit like this is a bad -- are the republicans though turning the corner? what are we doing? how are we doing? >> well, joe, there are a lot of things that give me encouragement. >> really? >> yeah, there are, there are. in the broader sense i've seen more movement faster from some big, important names in the party like jeb bush and others who i mean i thought there would be a harder line on revenue earlier than there has been. so i think they threw a flag -- >> you bring up jeb. what has he done have. >> jeb just seems to be -- he was i
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